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HPE 3PAR 8200 Virtual Copy - license

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Built on thin copy technology, HP 3PAR Virtual Copy is a reservationless, non-duplicative, copy-on-write software product that allows you to protect and share data from any application, affordably. Snapshots are available on demand, instantly, in read-only and / or read-write form. With Virtual Copy, snapshots are reservationless because capacity is not reserved upfront and non-duplicative since changed data is never duplicated within the snapshot tree. Coupled with consistency groups and support for hundreds of snapshots per base volume, Virtual Copy efficiency delivers affordable, CDP-like rapid application recovery from multiple points in time. With a single command, you can revert a base volume to any selected snapshot - without impacting other snapshots in the tree.

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Brand: HPE
Compatibility: PC
Manufacturer: HP 3Par Products
Model: 8200 Virtual Copy
Packaged Quantity: 1
Product Line: HPE 3PAR

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Category: Networking applications
Installation Type: Locally installed
Subcategory: Network - storage management

Product Reviews
HPE 3PAR 8200 Virtual Copy - license is rated 4.3 out of 5 by 47.
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Allows for configuration and use of disks that help us to define both disk performance and availability. Valuable Features:All Flash Only* Designed as only flash with the xx50 designation. This array was never intended for spinning disk or hybrid use.* We have never seen a disk or other hardware failure in over two years.* Average latency is less than one millisecond.* 3PAR ASIC is the heart of the processing power built into 3PAR arrays and it is built specifically for its role.Common Provisioning Groups (CPGs)* CPGs allow for versatile, yet powerful configuration and use of disks that help us to define both disk performance and availability.* There is no need to pre-carve space. It auto-grows and distributes as it is defined. Factor in wide striping, the fact that this is all flash, and the performance and reliability are even better than the other models of 3PAR.Data Reduction Services* The 3PAR and the ASIC really help the CPG to leverage an increase in performance as well as data efficiency.* Dedupe is applied to all items inside a CPG. There is no need to manually configure per volume.* Features are all inline and there is no post-processing window. The ASIC really shines on faster write speeds with the Zero Detect Algorithm. All zeros are ignored, resulting in much faster writes, not just space savings for blank data.* Thin provisioning* Thin clonesNative Veeam Support: Provides ease of use for backing up and restoring with the additional integration with Veeam.VMWare 6.x Vol SupportVMWare Fibre Channel: Reference platform for v6.Scale up, or out: It does both on demand unlike other arrays that leave you stuck with a single alternative. 3PAR Active Mesh Architecture is quite robust.Improvements to My Organization:We were quite hesitant on the array size when it was pitched as our replacement of an aged SAN.We were guaranteed we would get much more space than the physical capacity. (Make sure you get it in writing.)In reality, their safe numbers were extremely safe.We were expecting 2:1 as a rule of thumb, but in reality, we ended up sitting at greater than 8:1 across the entire array with all compaction/reduction features factored in.Room for Improvement:I would really love to see HPE add some cloud analytics. So many other vendors are offering this, and it’s really needed for the HPE 3PAR arsenal.Use of Solution:I have used the product for over two years.Stability Issues:We have not encountered any stability issues. Its performance and capacity have been even better than expected.The code updates have been exceptionally smooth compared to our previous SAN vendor. This includes no outage windows and really short upgrade durations.Scalability Issues:We have not encountered any scalability issues. This device can scale both up and out. It is exceptionally versatile.Technical Support:I recommend that you always procure the higher support offering with an enterprise product. It will pay for itself.We went with Proactive Care Advanced, before HPE was offering Datacenter care.The Advanced Care provides proactive interoperability reports from a dedicated technical account manager. They provide further recommendations on your current configuration if it is not compliant with HPE best practices.Previous Solutions:Our previous solution was retired due to capacity and performance issues.HPE really addressed our issues with their recommendation of the 3PAR 7450 for our specific needs.It’s actually less expensive per Gigabyte than a conventional array when looking at the true cost of ownership. Not to mention the performance is six times greater than the competitor’s device.Initial Setup:The entire setup, from rack and stack, to configuring the array, was shockingly expeditious.It took longer to rezone my fibre switches than it did to get the Common Provisioning Group (CPG) configured and begin storage with vMotion VMs.Cost and Licensing Advice:Remember, you are charged per disk with a 3PAR array for licensing. Make note of this when considering future capacity. A smaller number of higher capacity SSDs can be less expensive than multiple smaller capacity disks.Other Solutions Considered:We evaluated EMC, Nimble, IBM, NetApp, and Pure Storage.Other Advice:* Make sure that you are trained on the nuances of 3PAR technology if you select this Storage Area Network.* There are many useful features and you need to leverage them to lower the total ownership cost while easing the management of the device.Disclaimer: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Date published: 2017-03-29
Rated 4 out of 5 by from The most valuable feature is its tiered approach to data structuring. We can quickly move data from slow disks to faster disks. Valuable Features:The most valuable feature is its tiered approach to data structuring. We can quickly move data that's stored on slow disks to faster disks if the demand arises. That's good value for our company.Improvements to My Organization:We've recently embarked on a large-scale convergence project where we've consolidated about 250 physical servers to virtual servers. Those virtual servers are hosted onto 3PARs 7400 systems, which are located in two data centers. They give us high availability and real-time access to data in both locations. In terms of the value for business and the value for us, it's given us the facility to have a business continuity plan, which we never had before.Room for Improvement:Data de-duplication is something that's lacking in 3PAR. We use HPE StoreOnce systems as part of a backup solution. StoreOnce systems, they use a SAS disks, which are spin disks. They have about 80% de-duplication ratio, which from a backup perspective, that gives us tremendous capacity to back up to disk; not to take to disk for 12, 24 months. When you compare that to 3PAR, 3PAR doesn't have de-duplication and this causes storage issues.Technically that's not true. 3PAR has de-duplication on the SSD drives, but because it's a mixed drive chassis, the large proportion of data that we have comes in the first class of the SAS disks, which will equate to maybe about 70 or 80% for top data. They're not de-duplicated. I think that's a feature that HPE need to work on quickly.Stability Issues:3PARs are very stable. We've been using 3PARs both in the UK and our headquarters in France for maybe four years now and we've not had any issues with the system, so they're a quite a reliable system.Scalability Issues:Scalability depends on the situation. Whenever you try and provision these converged platforms, you've got to have an element of planning in terms of where your business is going grow for the next two or three years. It's interesting. We planned for 20% data growth on a 3PAR infrastructure over three years. What we found was we had closer to 20% data growth per year.So if you look it from a data scaling perspective, we've reached the limits of our 3PAR 7200s in Europe. Thankfully for us, we've got 7400s, which gives you a lot more scalability in terms of storage. From a memory and processing prospective, they're perfect. So we have no issues with scalability.Technical Support:Technical support is very good for the 3PARs you get. We've bought a 5-year support plan and we get to speak to the 3PAR technical support team in Houston, Tx. They're quite responsive. The 3PAR support plan, as well, is a reactive support plan, so we've got people from Houston who are looking at our systems and they inform us whenever a disk is filled. They send disks to be swapped out. They can be swapped out by our team or they can be swapped out by an HP person that turns up and does the job for you.Previous Solutions:We're a large company of many, many small companies and we've realized through global projects that have an autonomous approach to IT departments, for example, where it doesn't work. That's exactly the same when it comes to the architecture behind your IT environment. We had to look at centralizing all of our systems, all of our platforms, so that we could offer a meaningful level of service to business. Without centralization, we couldn't guarantee the service of any of our platforms around the key business applications that the business expected us to deploy. That's how we knew to centralize all of our systems and platforms and host them on converged systems.Initial Setup:Initial setup was very complex. These systems are very complex, but if you buy a converged system from HPE, the converged system is part of the package and HPE provides you with the technical expertise to come out and build the converged systems for you. They're built and tested at the manufacturing plant. You can go and visit the manufacturing plant and see them if you want. Some people can. Then they're sent to your site and HPE sends experts to build the 3PARs on site and assist you with the build.Other Advice:We have a global HPE agreement and it depends on the sort of size of projects and whether or not we issue and RFP when we got to other suppliers. If we do issue an RFP, then we're not tied internally to working with HPE. We can work with whoever we think's best for the requirement. But because we have such a good close working relationship with HPE and because they attend industry events, I'm always key to recommend to some of our peers and our colleagues around the world that they should be looking at this or that particular product.3PAR's good from a medium-sized to large-sized enterprises. We're probably a large-sized enterprise company, but we have also small companies around the world where we wouldn't recommend the 3PAR for those sort of situations. We'd recommend applying a platform converged systems solution.Disclaimer: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Date published: 2016-12-31
Rated 4 out of 5 by from You can set it up and let the system tune itself. Scales better than other solutions. Valuable Features:For me, the most valuable feature is its flexibility. You don't have to pre-plan everything. With more traditional storage systems, you had to decide on the size of your RAID groups and what RAID groups you wanted. A lot of customers don't know that upfront. The nice thing about 3PAR is you can set it up and just let the system essentially tune itself.Improvements to My Organization:Since 3PAR is self tuning and it optimizes itself to a better level of performance, then that translates to the application level and the business users can get their functions done quicker and more efficiently.Room for Improvement:I think it needs to become even more automated, especially with all this new hyper-converged functionality, which is really easy to upgrade. It should also be self-healing. The upgrade process is still quite clunky for 3PAR. It receives an alert from itself and then tells you what to do. At the moment it's not that intuitive.Use of Solution:I've been working with 3PAR for about four years now.Stability Issues:We've had very little problems with stability.Scalability Issues:It can scale as long as the customer's got the budget.Technical Support:Technical support could be better. The guys you get on the phone generally are not very knowledgeable. It can often take a while to go through several levels of support to get to the solution.Initial Setup:Initial setup is relatively complex.Cost and Licensing Advice:I think the license structure is quite transparent and fair.Other Advice:I'd say are the main two qualities vendor must have is good product and good technical support. Obviously, they must also have a reasonable price.3PAR is reliable. Although it takes a little bit of time to get set up, once you get set up, it runs itself. The other nice thing about it is that, the 3PAR scales from small to large nicely. Not like other vendors where you have to have several solutions for different size environments.Disclaimer: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer:
Date published: 2016-12-21
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Speed, capacity, and deduplication in a stable HA solution. Valuable Features:The data deduplication is one valuable feature. Anotherthing is the fast storage possibility and the whole clustering mode. Because wehave a dual data center set-up and we wanted to have a high availabilitysolution, we chose HPE 3PAR.Improvements to My Organization:This has helped our organization with fast storage and the whole administration which is handled quite automatically. In this way, I can save one full time equivalent (FTE) a year in my team, so that alone is a great benefit.Room for Improvement:I would like to see a more stable deduplication becausewith the deduplication we have right now, the percentage that we can save isnot as high as we hoped for. The second thing I’d like to see is a morescalable and faster storage possibility without the main licenses increasing incost. Now that we are in a full flash set-up, we want to go to a set-up wherewe can use flash and slower disks. While that set-up possibility exists, thereis a whole license step-up that has to be done. It takes too long to do all thelicenses. The license and the flexibility towards licensing needs improvement.Stability Issues:The stability, “knock on wood”, is okay. My feeling is that this solution is rock solid stable.Scalability Issues:We are on the verge of the next step up. We implemented last year and now we are going to double the capacity. Based on how it’s going so far, it will be an easy step up.Technical Support:We rely on our partner for technical support. They have a direct connection with HPE for the support. So, at the moment, we have no issues.Previous Solutions:Before we were using the EVA solution and HPE LeftHand. We had a large IOPS problems with our ERP system. They weren’t stable enough and they did not have a proven record for us. Our ERP system has a large database, lots of IOPS, and these solutions couldn’t handle it. That was why we changed to HPE 3PAR that has a full SSD solution that could handle the IOPS. The main competitor was NetApp. We chose HPE because of the stability. We know HPE, we have a multi-year contract with them. We looked at several reference cases and those convinced us to choose this solution.Other Advice:When looking for a vendor, stability and a proven track record are the things to look for. I would absolutely recommend it. When you need fast storage, high capacity, and deduplication, it's a good solution.Disclaimer: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Date published: 2016-12-18
Rated 4 out of 5 by from A quality product with all the latest advances in technology which you would expect from an all-flash array. The real-time replication over distance has been a long time in the coming. Valuable Features:The service and the support, as well as the technology. Yes, there are plenty of technical features that it offers, which we would expect from HPE. One of the reasons that we use HPE is because they tend to provide a quality product with all the latest advances in technology; so, its storage level, things like deduplication, all-flash array, real-time replication.In addition to that, it's just as important that the ongoing support and monitoring of the system is proactive, and also the account management side. If we have particular challenges with either the specific design and build of the array or we need to upgrade, we feel like we have good support from the people who own our relationship to help guide us through that process.Improvements to My Organization:It's a very critical technology component within our service offering. The storage sits central to everything else, such that it needs to be really robust. It needs to be highly available and it needs to be secure as well. All those things are very important. Because we're a service provider and we offer multitenancy, we need to be available to do that in a way such that we can host multiple clients’ data on the same storage system and in a secure fashion.Room for Improvement:I suppose I’d like to see more security in terms of encryption on the device without it impacting performance. For all I know, that might exist. It’s something occasionally we get asked for. Our understanding has been that there are challenges around introducing inline encryption to a storage system because it increases the performance overhead.Initially, some years ago, it missed a few important features. Until reasonably recently, one feature that was missing was the asynchronous real-time replication. In the last year or so, that's been introduced. I think that's taken too long. That was a little bit of a step back.Use of Solution:We've been using 3PAR for about five or six years.Stability Issues:Overall, touch wood, we've never had a major failure. We found it to be very, very stable. I think there are some challenges when it comes to upgrading the firmware on the system, and making those incremental updates. Apart from that, it's pretty rock solid.Scalability Issues:I suppose that those types of highly scalable environments that perhaps larger service providers need; we don't really push the boundaries of the product in that sense, too much. There are some step changes you have to make, I suppose, as you grow, which you'd prefer not to. You have to invest, maybe, in more enclosures or those kind of things, whereas you'd like it to be a bit smoother.From a financial point of view, which is probably the main challenge there, HPE are providing solutions for that in the terms of flexible capacity, where they help part share the financial responsibility and give you a more linear and smooth scaling of the system, and help you fund that.Previous Solutions:Before 3PAR, we used the HPE EVA technology. We’ve always used HPE.Other Solutions Considered:We have looked at EMC as an alternative, but in terms of servers and storage, we are very much aligned with HPE and have been for over 20 years, so there are a lot of reasons why we use them.One of the reasons we selected 3PAR was a similar reason that HP first acquired 3PAR: It's used by the world's biggest service and cloud providers. They're particularly focused on the multitenancy elements. It provides virtual domain technology that allows you to securely separate different customers' environments and where they store that data. You basically create multiple virtual SANs within a SAN. For a service provider who's doing multitenancy, clearly that's a big advantage for us.The most important criteria when selecting 3PAR was the multitenancy piece, because we get a lot of questions from our clients around how we securely segment their data; if we can prove to them that our administrators can only log into their specific domain within that shared storage system and we can provide an audit trail.Other Advice:Absolutely get the design of the system right. Work very closely with the right pre-sales technical teams. If you don't, it can be expensive to try and rectify that after you've bought it.Disclaimer: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Date published: 2016-12-15
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Convergence with the HPE/VMware ecosystem​ is a feature we've found valuable. Valuable Features:* High granularity* Easy to use* Convergence with the HPE/VMware ecosystemImprovements to My Organization:3PAR's ease-of-use has really improved our functioning because it requires less administration and less tuning. It really just works.Room for Improvement:We need something with less performance and lower cost to fill a gap in our customer solution offerings. We'd like to be able to have something like branch office storage, which is still capable of interacting with enterprise systems like 3PAR 8400, for example, in terms of replication, backup capability, peer motion, etc. Specifically, we need lower end 3PAR devices. Sometimes, we need 3PAR for the same cost of an MSA2040 to replace it.Deployment Issues:There have been no issues with deploying it.Stability Issues:We had some issues with power down recovery and boot disk issues. Other than that, it's a stable solution.Scalability Issues:We had no issues scaling it for our needs.Other Advice:3PAR made its success by scaling down enterprise systems to the mid-range level, which was not typical for the storage market. Although no one cares about inventing something cheap, HP did it with 3PAR and succeeded.But my advice would to try it! It's cool.Disclaimer: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer:We are both customer and partner. We are integrators with pretty advanced internal architecture.
Date published: 2016-10-01
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Our data security is greater and our system works faster, and we're able to manage storage with a user-friendly console. Valuable Features:* Simple management console with ability to manage storage (files, blocks, objects, functionalities) that's user friendly.* High-availability and resiliency* Data security (RAID system on global level (disks = modules))Improvements to My Organization:Data security was greater and the system worked faster.Room for Improvement:There were no areas for improvement a that time.Use of Solution:I used it for one and a half years, before I moved companies.Deployment Issues:No issues encountered.Stability Issues:No issues encountered.Scalability Issues:No issues encountered.Customer Service:It's excellent.Technical Support:It's excellent.Previous Solutions:NoInitial Setup:It was very simple with a user guide provided from HP.Implementation Team:We used a vendor team.Other Advice:Just to go for it if you need storage on site. If you need it in the cloud, there are other solutions tor that.Problem with one of the disks in storageDisclaimer: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Date published: 2016-08-22
Rated 4 out of 5 by from I like how easy it is to use for users who don't do storage admin every day. Valuable Features:What I like about 3PAR is just how easy it is to use. A lot of my guys don't do storage admin every day and yet they have no issues allocating the storage. From my perspective, it's really easy for me to be able to get in and do any troubleshooting with it and it's very consistent. It's a rock steady performer.Improvements to My Organization:It's consistency. And again, it's going through to HPE for everything. And I know that my blade, my DL and my 3PAR are all going to work seamlessly together.Room for Improvement:Upgrades on them are a bit tricky. For us to do a head swap on one is a full outer joiner storage frame, which is obviously not that easy to do in a production environment.Other Solutions Considered:We have looked at various competitors, and we have swung away from HPE storage, and then back into HPE storage as well. We were looking at EMC for a while, we actually had some BMCs in our environment as well. Right now, they are running alongside our 3PARs, we do actually want multi-vendor storage for their environment, depending on what the demands are for the storage. We treat our 3PARs as our tier two storage.Other Advice:Either go all Flash or at least a mix of flash and near line, you don't want to just get locked in with just near line or SaaS, because you're going to get locked in with slow disk and it gets really hard to upgrade after the fact.Disclaimer: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Date published: 2016-07-26
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